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  How Modern Christianity has failed Christians

  by Christ Alone in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've recently been thinking about our culture and how christianity in our western culture has failed to keep up with advancements in science.

  ) churches have let reason sink into the intellectual closet of fundamentalism.

  "feel good" churches seem to be the norm today.

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  bohm

  I just had a revelation, dd has brain damage, the only way he can know the truth is by asking me. Dd, can you proove you dont havebbrain damage? Dont think so! Ergo i win, and there is no god

  LOL!

  When I asked the question about logic, people reacted as if I doubted the existence of logic. OK, just for the record I don’t doubt logics exists, and never did. I’m asking the philosophical question, about HOW you KNOW logic exists. When I asked the question about proving it exists, everyone jump on me giving me examples of how it was applied. Logic has no mass or energy, yet, we all assume it’s there, but, no thought as to where it came from. Did logic exist before the big bang?

  Jgnat said:

  Though we've worked out that an atom can be found and exists apart from Christ. A Christian or an Athiest scientist can both find the atom. We can build rocket ships, discover new particles, come up with new fuels, decode the genome, and fly a rocket to the moon, all without Christ. It hasn't fallen down as you claim it should. This also is the truth.

  Well, not so fast. You haven’t accounted for logic apart from Christ. You may have used logic without acknowledging him, everyone can use or apply it. How do we account for logic?
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  How Modern Christianity has failed Christians

  by Christ Alone in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've recently been thinking about our culture and how christianity in our western culture has failed to keep up with advancements in science.

  ) churches have let reason sink into the intellectual closet of fundamentalism.

  "feel good" churches seem to be the norm today.

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  cofty

  If you reject evidence, as you already proudly declared, then we have no foundation for discussion.

  Now you are twisting what I said to Christ Alone. I did not say "I reject evidence".
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  277

  How Modern Christianity has failed Christians

  by Christ Alone in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've recently been thinking about our culture and how christianity in our western culture has failed to keep up with advancements in science.

  ) churches have let reason sink into the intellectual closet of fundamentalism.

  "feel good" churches seem to be the norm today.

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  Deputy Dog

  Cofty

  Can you think of another type?

  Sure, for example, lets take logic. How do you prove logic exists? What method did you use to "discover" logic?

  How can you doubt it?

  Because, I've discovered things that can't be proven with the scientific method.
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  277

  How Modern Christianity has failed Christians

  by Christ Alone in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've recently been thinking about our culture and how christianity in our western culture has failed to keep up with advancements in science.

  ) churches have let reason sink into the intellectual closet of fundamentalism.

  "feel good" churches seem to be the norm today.

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  2. 
  3. 
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  Deputy Dog

  cofty

  If anybody ever offers evidence for god it will need to be consistent with what we know to be true through science. Of course you have opted out of the world of evidence haven't you?

  No, I'll accept scientific evidence. You on the other hand must live in a small universe, if scientific evidence is the only type you'll acept.

  edited to add this question: How do you know science is reliable?

  You said: "I am certain that methodological naturalism is the key to discovery"

  How can you be so "certain"?
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  277

  How Modern Christianity has failed Christians

  by Christ Alone in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've recently been thinking about our culture and how christianity in our western culture has failed to keep up with advancements in science.

  ) churches have let reason sink into the intellectual closet of fundamentalism.

  "feel good" churches seem to be the norm today.

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  2. 
  3. 
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  Deputy Dog

  Cofty

  I believe you are a naturalist. I was being sarcastic. Why won't you answer me about your statements?

  cofty-I am convinced there is no supernatural realm.

  OK, what convinced you? The lack of "natural" evidence?

  cofty-I am certain that methodological naturalism is the key to discovery.

  The key to discovery of God?
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  277

  How Modern Christianity has failed Christians

  by Christ Alone in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've recently been thinking about our culture and how christianity in our western culture has failed to keep up with advancements in science.

  ) churches have let reason sink into the intellectual closet of fundamentalism.

  "feel good" churches seem to be the norm today.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  Deputy Dog

  cofty

  Excuse my sarcasm, I'm sure you are committed to naturalism.
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  277

  How Modern Christianity has failed Christians

  by Christ Alone in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've recently been thinking about our culture and how christianity in our western culture has failed to keep up with advancements in science.

  ) churches have let reason sink into the intellectual closet of fundamentalism.

  "feel good" churches seem to be the norm today.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  Deputy Dog

  cofty

  Now who is avoiding difficult questions?
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  How Modern Christianity has failed Christians

  by Christ Alone in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've recently been thinking about our culture and how christianity in our western culture has failed to keep up with advancements in science.

  ) churches have let reason sink into the intellectual closet of fundamentalism.

  "feel good" churches seem to be the norm today.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  Deputy Dog

  Cofty

  I said presuppositionalism is a cop-out, a way avoiding answering difficult questions.

  Do you mean difficult questions like these:

  cofty-I am convinced there is no supernatural realm.

  OK, what convinced you? The lack of "natural" evidence?

  cofty-I am certain that methodological naturalism is the key to discovery.

  The key to discovery of God?
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  277

  How Modern Christianity has failed Christians

  by Christ Alone in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've recently been thinking about our culture and how christianity in our western culture has failed to keep up with advancements in science.

  ) churches have let reason sink into the intellectual closet of fundamentalism.

  "feel good" churches seem to be the norm today.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  Deputy Dog

  Cofty

  What made you ask - Are you telling me you're not a commited naturalist?

  Because of what you said about Presuppositionalism.
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  277

  How Modern Christianity has failed Christians

  by Christ Alone in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've recently been thinking about our culture and how christianity in our western culture has failed to keep up with advancements in science.

  ) churches have let reason sink into the intellectual closet of fundamentalism.

  "feel good" churches seem to be the norm today.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  Deputy Dog

  cofty

  I am convinced there is no supernatural realm.

  OK, what convinced you? The lack of "natural" evidence?

  I am certain that methodological naturalism is the key to discovery.

  The key to discovery of God?